Panasonic Viera S2 50" plasma TV - or LCD?

by Paul
(United States)

Aged 61, first time HDTV want a be buyer. The 50" Panasonic Viera S2 plasma TV was going to be my purchase until I started reading about the black level situation. Is this something the average guy would notice? Would it still be better then an LCD?

I want to spend in the $1500 MAX range.




Hi

Firstly, it's great you've decided to switch to an HDTV. You won't be disappointed.

As to your question, well, first let me say I'm not a fan of telling people which hardware to buy or not to buy.

Everybody has different requirements, different rooms, different viewing habits and different tastes. Something that looks or sounds good to one person will not necessarily be ideal for someone else.

The best option is to always try and see or hear the equipment for yourself if that is possible.

Having said that, for what it's worth, here's my opinion on the S2.

It seems the Panasonic Viera S2 does have a few people raising questions over the black levels, colour accuracy and a grainy picture. However, there are just as many people who seem to love it and can see no problems.

You are right to question if the average person will notice these 'issues'. In many cases they won't, because they won't sit four feet from a 50 inch screen trying to spot problems. The majority of people will just not look at the picture they see with such a critical eye - and the picture you get with a modern HDTV from a reputable company will never be THAT bad - as long as you set it up correctly.

Over the last few years, the viewing mode that you choose for a Panasonic plasma has often been important. Most people agree that setting the viewing mode to 'Cinema' will give you the best picture. I have tried this myself and can confirm it does make a difference. You can switch to the 'normal' viewing mode if you are in a brighter room, but this setting is for bright rooms only and not meant for critical viewing in low light conditions.

Which brings us to the LCD TV as an alternative. In my opinion, the picture of a plasma TV is more natural and better-looking than that of an LCD. That doesn't mean LCD TVs don't give a good picture, but given the choice, I prefer plasma.

However, if you are going to be putting the TV in a bright room with lots of daylight, and mainly watching it in those conditions, then an LCD TV may prove a better option.

LCD TVs don't reflect light as much as a plasma TV and a plasma can easily appear washed-out in rooms with lots of daylight or with bright room lighting - and the S2 may struggle in these conditions. However, if you watch plenty of movies and documentaries in the evening in low-light conditions - then a plasma really comes into its own.

So, try and get to see a Panasonic Viera S2 for yourself if you can. Ideally in a shop that doesn't have lots of bright fluorescent lights! But if you can't, then I think you will be fine with an S2 if it fits your budget, has all the features you require and makes sense for the type of room you will be using it in.

Panasonic are widely regarded to make the best plasma TVs and they generally make high-quality products.

Does anybody else have any opinions on the Panasonic Viera S2?

Paul (Site Editor)

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reply from original poster
by: Paul S.

Thanks for the reply and comments.

My living room has one picture window that does not shine on the screen and we do have light blocking curtains. There are two small table lamps that can be turned off during viewing the TV.

I understand your feedback about recommending a particular set. I'm just trying to get the basics down ahead of time.

If the Panny will come back to haunt me I will buy a different set. I have been doing research on the other Plasma's out there and the Samsung label is another option, mainly the PN50A550 or PNA50A650 or which ever is available.

Any advice or comments are welcome.

Thanks

Paul S.

Plasma TV Suggestions
by: Paul - The Home Cinema Guide

I know how you feel, it can send your head spinning when you start researching a new TV!

As far as light in your room is concerned, it sounds fine and I don't think you will have a problem regardless of the type of TV you choose.

It's only extremely bright rooms with direct sunlight or bright lights directly behind your viewing position where lighting may need to be considered with the type of TV you choose.

If you're still unsure about an S2, here's a couple of ideas.

You say your maximum budget is $1500. If so, why not check out the next Panasonic model up from the S2. The 50 inch Panny G25 can be bought online for around $1200, and it will have a superior picture to the S2.

The next manufacturer for plasma I would look at would be LG. They have been getting good reviews for their plasmas. How about the LG INFINIA 50PK750?

You can get an idea of their online prices at Amazon:

Panasonic VIERA TC-P50G25 50-Inch 1080p Plasma HDTV

LG INFINIA 50PK750 50-Inch 1080p Plasma HDTV

That's to give you an idea of the online price. You may find better deals elsewhere or prefer to go to a 'real' shop. It's up to you.

Good luck.

Paul

24P
by: Anonymous

I found this in a review online but I dont know what it means. Can you explain it to me?

"The main problem with the G10/G15 HDTVs is their inability to handle 24p content directly without the use of 2:3 pulldown processing; also, typical of Panasonic, standard definition handling is not among their best capabilities."
Thanks,
Paul S.

3:2 Pulldown
by: Paul - The Home Cinema Guide

Hi

Very simply, 3:2 pulldown is required by some 60Hz HDTVs in order to show some movies.

Most movies are shot at 24 frames per second, which doesn't divide easily into 60 Hz. Therefore 3:2 pulldown varies the amount of frames shown in one second so it will synchronize with your 60Hz HDTV.

Some HDTVs can show movies at the original 24 frames per second - aka 1080p24, and many Blu-ray players will output movies at this frame rate. This is ideal as the frame rate doesn't have to be adjusted.

HDTVs that can't, like the G10, will use 3:2 pulldown for a 1080p24 movie. It is mainly high-end models that can show native 1080p24, although it is becoming more widespread.

3:2 pulldown may be seen as a slight judder in on-screen motion - especially slow-smooth panning camera shots.

Some people notice this and it annoys them, others don't notice it at all. It won't be an issue with TV shows as they are generally shot on video at 30 frames per second.

1080p24 and HDTVs is explained very well here.

A standard definition TV image is anything which is not high-definition. Some HDTVs handle standard-definition images better than others. If you are going to be watching lots of standard-definition images on your TV, the SD performance is more important.

The further away you sit from the TV, the less problems you will notice with SD images.

Go here for more about native and image resolutions.

Hope that helps.

Paul

DLP'S ANYONE?
by: Anonymous

I just learned about DLP tv's. Any words of wisdom, this gets tuffer everyday.
Paul S.

DLP TVs
by: Paul - The Home Cinema Guide

Hi

Glad you're enjoying researching your new TV :-)

I'm afraid you've got me on DLP TVs. I have very little experience with Rear Projection TVs, and because they aren't very widespread, I haven't got around to researching an article on them.

They apparently give a very good picture, but tend to be much bulkier than LCD/plasma due to the rear projection technology.

I also recall reading somewhere they can be pretty expensive to repair if they go wrong - so make sure you get good insurance/warranty.

The popularity of plasma and LCD TVs has made many manufacturers pull out of making this type of TV.

Probably not much help...

Paul

Just bought an S2 Panasonic
by: Richard in utopia

Great color, fabulous picture in SD or HD; but after one week thin green vertical lines appeared.

Seeking replacement. Great tv for a week.

S2 Problems
by: Paul - The Home Cinema Guide

Richard

Thanks for your input.

Good to hear you thought the quality of Panasonic S2 was good.

Not so good that it only lasted a week! However, we are all unlucky once in a while when we buy a new product. Hopefully the replacement will arrive quickly and last you many years - rather than hours :-)

Panasonic are generally a solid brand, and so I guess you just got unlucky.

Paul

Panasonic plasma vs LCD TV
by: George

I agree with Paul. I purchased one in June 2010. Mine is perfect. It faces the interior of the room to avoid window light in a relative darker part of the living room. Floor lamps can be adjusted outside the screen angle or minimized.
My 50" has the non-reflective screen, don't buy without it, and also orbiting pixels to prevent screen burn out.
The color is superior with its shades and the screen is not so bright as to induce eye fatigue or strobing effect.
By the way, 1080 is better than the 720. The slightly higher 1080 price is worth it for your personal use.
George

Panasonic S2 is great
by: Anonymous

I have an SP4805 Infocus DLP front projector - for EDTV it's the best thing you can buy.

My wife and I just got the Panasonic TC-P42S2 for the living room. We love it. The AR filter is terrific, hardly any glare from our bright windows and the 1080i off-the-air reception is fantastic! We played a 480P DVD and it upconverted it beautifully!

We got the TV for $600 @ Sears. Worth every penny!

The only thing the S2 doesn't have is an S-video input - I can live with that!

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